Conversation between Peter Paul Rubens and Jan Steen, The King Painters P.P. Rubens, and an Steen. Second Conversation (title on object), Painter Peter Paul Rubens stands next to the painter Jan Steen who is on his knees making drawings in the sand. In the background an obelisk. Stated at the bottom: February / 1747. print maker: Simon Fokke, (mentioned on object), publisher: Bernardus van Gerrevink, publisher: erven J. Ratelband, Amsterdam, Feb-1747, paper, etching, height 125 mm x width 80 mm.